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Just because it's the weekend before E3 doesn't mean we're leaving our Remember When listeners in the dark. We proudly present Episode 7 of the geekiest podcast available.

We start off the show with a spoiler-y discussion on Wall-E (14:30 to 25:45) then jump into the focus of this episode: Mel Brooks. We spend the rest of the episode talking about three of Mel's classic films: Blazing Saddles, Spaceballs, and Young Frankenstein. Don't worry, there's tangents galore here.

We also tangent off at the end of the show to talk about one of Jay's favorite franchises, Firefly (1:00:45).

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Great show again guys. I have to agree with you on Firefly/Serenity. Great series that ended far too soon.

SPOILER (for Angel): Joss comes from the Stephen King school of storytelling, though he may not be quite as hardcore as SK. No character is ever safe. While this seemed less true to me in Buffy (they always come back), in Angel he was brutal. The loss of Cordelia and Wesley was one thing, but to kill off Fred . . .

Jay, I agree on Young Frankenstein. I just have never been able to sit through the whole thing. I see excerpts and think they are hilarious but can't make it through the whole movie.

With regard to Blazing Saddles, while the ending is too over the top for me, it is one of the funniest movies ever made. But a co-worker recently noted he showed it to his teenage daughters and their primary comments were around how racist the movie was. It would never get released today. The pitch man for the movie would get banned from Hollywood studios.

Have a great time at E3. I'm looking forward to the coverage.

I love your guys show it's great to listen to you and i have seen alot of the things you talk about but it's still interesting cuz i am that big of a geek and i'm 13. But parris really no love for space balls come on all my friends who have seen star wars the new ones 1-3 still liked it it's just funny.

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SPOILER (for Angel):

Funny story about Fred. I went to school with Amy Acker. She was in my graduating class at Lake Highlands High School here in Dallas. I had a couple of classes with her, too.

Of course, I was the nerd in high school and she was the cool one, so she has no idea who I am. But it's fun to grab my senior yearbook and see her in all the drama productions from that year. Even funnier that she went on to play a nerd in Angel and I.... well, became an even bigger nerd.

Side note on Angel (without spoilers)
In the final scene of the final season, when they enter the big battle? Hooboy, was I scared. Like, REALLY scared. After what happened earlier in the episode, I was legitimately convinced that Joss could, and would, kill everyone. Not just one by one, but all of them, all at once.

Thankfully, it ended when it did.

I'm just now starting to read the Season Six comics for Angel and the Season Eight comics for Buffy. I tell ya, that man Joss knows how to write. He is one of the authors I would love to sit down with for a few hours and just pick their brain.

Great show guys... first time I've really sat down and listened to Remember When.. but I definitely enjoyed it.

I remember seeing Blazing Saddle when I was like 6 or 7, and laughing my ass off, "Candy man for mongo". I didn't see it again untill I was in college and laughed at it just as hard for different reason. Great show, an all time classic.

Good show guys

First time I listen to the show and I enjoyed very much. Love the Tommy Boy clip at the end of the show.

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Thankfully, it ended when it did. ;)

At the time, I was somewhat frustrated by the ending (or lack thereof) but has time has gone on, it has become one of my favorite series' endings.

yet another great show. just went out and bought blazing saddles because of this show. keep up the great work

Since you were asking for people that were too young to see Blazing Saddles in the 80's, and 70's I am one of them. I think I saw it a few years ago (2-3 years), and I loved the movie. I have loved everything from Mel Brooks. I thought the movie was funny, entertaining, and I could see exactly what they were doing with the movie.

Also did I hear a quip about Parris liking The Godfather Part 2? Please tell me that you think it is not the best of the 3? It was good, but I am of the personal belief that it goes in order of 1,3,2 being that if the beginning of 3 was better it may have surpassed 1 (although everything about 1 was perfect). another quip I thought I picked up on was that Jay has not seen the godfather 2 which begs the question have you seen 1 because that is another one of the great movies Jay has never seen. Back to the godfather I think that the end of 3 was probably better than the end of 1, but I still think that they need to get the relationship of the party I will not mention for spoilers sake, and the other party rather than the third party which takes more of the second parties attention. Someone tell me how to black this thing out, and I will say what I want to say.

Spoilers
I felt that they should have killed the son instead of the Daughter because while his relationship to his son was not as close they focused on him more. what would have made it better was if she had been focused on more closely because it would have shown that he has lost everything in his life from his father to Sonny to Freddy, to his own son (leaving the business) =, and then the final straw is blown with his own failed assassination resulting in the death of his daughter. Yes it was good, but I think a little more focus on the daughter. Then it may have been a little predictable (it got me), but I would still like a better relationship. Was the movie startign with her wedding or something because I don't remember much about the beginning but some celebration.

Also on the subject of firefly since Jay said that firefly was a ripoff of Cowboy bebop (in a good way of course) when can we have the obligatory Anime episode? At least do it on episode 24. I know Jay doesn't watch anime, but I think that we can convince him to watch enough anime for the show. Or at least pull some other person you know.

Parris doesn't like Spaceballs. What! Where was the brace for impact prep at? I'm still stunned. So stunned I have nothing else to say. My Schwartz is most definitely bigger than Parris'.

Ok, let me go off on my own little tangent. First of all, love from SF. I've been listening since you guys put out the second ep and this is now THE podcast I look forward to downloading. Second, when you do the Firefly/Serenity show you HAVE TO open it up as a live cast. Joss has been my master for about a year and a half now and I've watched through Buffy twice and finally have an opportunity to finish Angel. Firefly was my first though, so I really want to weigh in on this unfinish rough gem of a 'verse.

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Side note on Angel (without spoilers)
In the final scene of the final season, when they enter the big battle? Hooboy, was I scared. Like, REALLY scared. After what happened earlier in the episode, I was legitimately convinced that Joss could, and would, kill everyone. Not just one by one, but all of them, all at once.

I had the exact same thought at the end of Serenity. ZOMG SPOILARZ: After they killed Wash it pretty much meant everybody was fair game at this point. Once they all got shot up, I was like, "Wow. Joss is going to kill them all off." But then they managed to survive, after all! It was set up perfectly to be a truly unpredictable ending. One of the ONLY unpredictable movies I've seen in a LONG time.

Also, Firefly a ripoff of Cowboy Bebop? No no no. They're both basically ripoffs of Star Wars... if Han Solo were the main character.

How can they be ripoffs of the most genuinely ripped off story ever. I mean, really when you boil it down Star Wars is LoTR, Chronicles of Narnia and every other great epic tale throughout history. Don't get me wrong, I love the original trilogy with a burning passion, but Lucas has never been the first to come up with any of his films except for the idea of a purely jukebox soundtrack in American Graffiti. Indy is based securely on 1930's serials ad Star Wars is rooted in our collective storytelling tradition.

Admittedly, Joss based the crew of the Serenity on the Millenium Falcon, but from there it was pure Whedon storytelling at it's finest. Just because we're in space and flying around in a POS ship doesn't make us Star Wars revisited.

Yes but they are both similar enough that they are directly related unlike star wars which is a little off from both.

Hi, guys. As always a great show. What I did miss was a discussion on Silent Movie, which was the first Mel Brooks movie I watched, and I still consider it one of the best.

As for a Best Movie Oscar for an animated film, I don't know if any of you remember the academy awards ceremony when Beauty and the Beast was nominated, all I can tell you is that I will never forget Sally Fields words on the nomination: "the Academy expects this to be the first AND LAST time an animated fil is nominated for the Best Film".

This comes from the same people that nominated The Omen soundtrack instead of Saturday Night Fever. So closed in mind that they didn't trully appreciate Ratatuille last year, and I doubt they will ever see animated films as the gems they have become.

Take care.-

Another great show as always! Wasn't planning on going to see Wall-E, but that's now on my list

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So closed in mind that they didn't truly appreciate Ratatuille last year, and I doubt they will ever see animated films as the gems they have become.

Unfortunately, American audiences in general seem to have the mindset that anything animated is kiddie fare, and don't really see it as a viable form of adult entertainment. That more than anything will probably keep Pixar or anyone else from forming a non-kid-centered animation house. I'd love to see Pixar, Dreamworks, or someone else set up something like that, but I think the closest we'll get, at least for now, are things like DC New Frontier and the like,rather than theatrical releases